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YvtW x LOTR rewrite update

Sat, 25 Apr 2015 23:20:33 GMT

Finished Part 6
Previous: Part 1 Part 2 Part 3 Part 4 Part 5

Also made small edits to the previous parts to account for the new changes. Some notes regarding major setting changes:

* Since PJ pushed Gundabad as another major enemy location in the Hobbit films, I shoehorned it in here as well since the xover setting is half-half movieverse vs bookverse as things go. It's also my excuse of where the Sons of Elrond and the Northern Dunedain were in the movie timeline for them to not appear at all in the LOTR movies.

* Didn't manage to get screentime with Thranduil in, to my own chagrin. Then again, I wrote so much on his backstory that I guess this is sort of a break. Still working on Part 7 and that will have some more.

* So the way I'm meshing together the movie & book timeline is that the Battle of Five Armies in movie canon (and in this xover TL) took place 17 years later than it had in book canon. Coincidentally, the time between Bilbo and then Frodo leaving for Rivendell would also take 17 years less time than it would have in book canon, so that balances out. This way, Aragorn would've been around 27 at the time of BOFA (and hence it would actually make sense for Thranduil to send Legolas off to find a pal who's not a 10 year old boy). But it also means that the ages of the Kings of Dale will need to be pushed back a bit. Bain was 18 at the time of BOFA in the movies, and so here he's still the king instead of his son Brand. Not that I've gotten to showing them yet, of course. That's also in the next part.

* Still conflicted on what I'm going to do with Denethor, especially since I'm moving closer to movie characterization for him. (Mostly cuz I don't care much about him. The people I like I tend to take the best parts of both movie and book characterization, I find. =P) Maybe I'll end up just siccing Galadriel on him. Hehe.

* Modified Arwen's part a bit...still not too satisfied with her non-part. Also need to figure out what I'm going to do with Eowyn. We need more strong female characters dangit. Eh... part of the problem is that I'm mainly writing from the POV of the SI characters, so we don't really get to see a lot of the stuff going on elsewhere. I should maybe write a separate interlude in tandem with the storyline covering all the NPC stuff going on. Ugh. But that's also so much work.

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So I accidentally a fic...

Sun, 12 Apr 2015 07:29:08 GMT

It started with me writing out my headcanon for the backstory of the LOTR setting that I'm using for the YvtW xover.

Basically starting with the movie-verse as a baseline and then start making changes, adding things, and explaining things from a different pov to align more book-verse themes/characterization/etc. to it. I still have a huge infodump file. And a genealogy graph (so I can keep my OCs straight).

Then I started writing post-Hobbit:BOFA plot and dialogue. So I thought... eh, I can put fic snippets in a separate file. Now, 60+ Google doc pages later, I...pretty much have a full fledged fic.

Part 1 - Fall & Winter After BOFA
Part 2 - Spring & Summer After BOFA

Total of 27k+ words. That's like half a nanowrimo. I... I don't even know where all these words came from.

Also, my muses are demanding I write First Age Silm-fic set in Doriath, a backstory to the backstory.

Halp.

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Fangirl ramblings...

Sun, 08 Mar 2015 18:55:58 GMT

It's been raining all morning. I feel like a zombie. Spent my stam on PAD and no GW2/STO. Might as well vomit some junk from my sleep deprived mind.

So. Have LOTR movie vs book ramblings plus a few more pokes at the YvtW xover.

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Timeline woes

Sun, 02 Feb 2014 19:46:39 GMT

Been plotting out the timelines of the LOTR books vs movies (hence my rant about Aragorn & co having superspeed a few posts back) in order to determine a rough timeline for the YvtW xover story. It's mainly for my own reference so I can plot the sequence of events. I've been trying to keep time references in the story itself to a minimum so that I don't lock myself into anything specific.

In the book, the Battle of Morannon ended in late March. Then Aragorn was crowned on the first day of May, and married sometime in June-July. The symbolism is of course it was a new spring for Men, and the newly planted White Tree would be in bloom.

But, no matter how I fudge things, the end of the War of the Ring in our crossover comes out somewhere in early to mid August. I really don't want to have everyone hang around all the way til spring (Feb at the earliest) for end that segment of plot. But I guess I will if I have to.

How necessary is the symbolism of spring to Aragorn's coronation anyway? Probably the likes of Elrond and Denethor would be more picky about things like that than he is. Would they be amenable to a coronation along the lines of harvest festival? Autumnal equinox, maybe? And a wedding for Samhain (Halloween)?

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YvtW rewrite update

Wed, 29 Jan 2014 04:50:59 GMT

Part 5 is done.
Previous: Part 1 Part 2 Part 3 Part 4

Yeah I still haven't decided on Faramir's fate yet. *shrug*

I dropped all the extra dragons and stuff from the original version, because honestly, they're not needed. I think I've kept things more in line with canon and still made for an effective narrative.

Plans for part 6...I want to incorporate more of Mirkwood and possibly Dale/Erebor - which means that part won't get written until I see Hobbit 3 and decide what to keep/discard. I did have one scene already with Thranduil, and that is also still subject to retcon.

As for the segue into the Afterlife arc, it doesn't make sense anymore for Aragorn to bring up the connection. If ossian approves, I want to use character from the Simarillion. I have two potential candidates, so let me know who you prefer.

* Tuor - He's similar to the PCs in that he wasn't born immortal, which gives a mechanism to introduce some background meta stuff. Canonically known to have dropped off the map, so to speak, for a long time. His Edain heritage may give him the freedom to 'travel beyond the circle of the world' which sounds like an euphemism for d-travel. Also, he would bring together 4 generations of direct lineage (Tuor - Earendil - Elrond - Elladan/Elrohir) which could make for some interesting family drama.

* Maglor - Another wanderer whose fate is unknown since the end of the First Age. He would introduce lots of potential conflict/drama. Given that as long as the Andromeda is around, Earendil's Simaril is technically within reach, a lot of people (including the PCs) would get all paranoid about the Doom with Maglor around. Elrond would likely have some mixed feelings about the guy due to being kidnapped/raised by him. And even putting aside the Silmaril, I suspect Earendil would not like him for the same reason.

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Rewrite of part 4 done

Fri, 17 Jan 2014 04:36:58 GMT

New: Part 4
Previous: Part 1 Part 2 Part 3

Notes:

- Going with a saner Paths of the Dead thing (see last entry). Which means we only get quickly where we are going due to explicit cheating rather than via the magic of scene change. Also, ditching the CGI ghosts at Pelargir because it would be a little too anti-climatic to bring them to Minas Tirith, since I don't plan on having more than just the one big battle there.

- Just realized while researching while rewriting: Shelob is a Bug/Poison type by pokemon standards. Bug/Poison are vulnerable to Fire/Psychic types. CBY, who killed Shelob, used Fire (lightsaber) and Psychic (Dark Side Force) attacks. Wow, it all works out!

- Feeling really sorry for Faramir after everything I've done (and will do further) to him. By the same respects, if I need Denethor alive, it'll be so I can torture him. Narratively speaking, that is. My PC doesn't do torture.

- According to wiki, Theodred is like 10+ years older than Eomer/Eowyn. However, his movie actor looks really young. So I am retconning my continuity based on the movie actor and making him the same age as Eowyn, and thus younger than Eomer.

- Eowyn does end up going to Gondor with the army anyway. So... who else should I kill/maim off? *eg*

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LOTR x YvtW rewrite update

Tue, 14 Jan 2014 03:59:51 GMT

Finished Part 3 today.
Previous: Chapter 1 Chapter 2

Notes:

- Massive, massive rewrite from the original. Basically everything in Rohan was rewritten. Most of my PC's scenes were also reshuffled and altered.

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LOTR stuff

Fri, 10 Jan 2014 01:21:49 GMT

It started with Hobbit II, and me trawling tumblr for pics. That led to reading linked articles about Tolkien in general, which somehow led me to go back and re-read the YvtW story arc for LOTR. And well, I ended up starting the re-write of that shebang that I'd always wanted to do but could never work up the motivation.

ossian, if you can read these, let me know what you think: Chapter 1 Chapter 2

Those were the easy parts. When we did the original thread, only FOTR had come out, so TTT and ROTK were entirely based on the book (entire sections were lifted almost verbatim) and not the movies. So the later parts will pretty much need to be completely re-written to incorporate more movie canon.

Anyway, some stuff that occured to me while (re-)plotting and trying to strike a balance between book and movie...
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