Bleh, forgot about the weird timeline oddness of Lan's ascension being dated after he severed the Ambrosial Arbor + Wingweaver attack in one shot (something that shouldn't be possible unless he has Aeon-level power). Doesn't help that The Hunt also seems to involve timey-wimey-ness.
I'll concede the point that the conflict between the Xianzhou and various Abundance blessed powers had started before they converted to Hunt. So there's a long standing tradition of conflict there, and given the typical vibe of the Denizens of Abundance, they're more likely to be the aggressors.
BTW, I've usually associated just the Borisin with the northern nomadic peoples given what we've seen of their depiction. The Wingweavers, I dunno, they feel a little like the Korean peninsula powers or Japan even...(which would make the Anti-Matter Legion the USA then; that might be taking it too far.)
> The fact they are recognized as having the same personalities and appearance, thus are expies rather than new original character means fandom acknowledges the transference of this core identity.
Eh? I don't think that's what they're trying to do with this. The fandom recognizes that there would be a similarity, but it's also very evident that these are new individual characters on their own made for the HSR game.
Like, if someone writes a story about Himeko, whether this is a HSR fanfic or a Impact 3rd fanfic would then depend on the context elements. Is this Himeko an engineer and navigator of the Astral Express or is she a researcher? Are the people she's interacting with the HSR cast or the Impact3 cast?
Then, if you write a story about Himeko being, say, a normal earth sports club manager with little to no other references in story to elements of either fandom, then it doesn't make a lot of difference if you point at that story and say it's an AU of HSR vs an AU of Impact3. The distinction at that point is meaningless since it's so removed from the elements of either setting.
> But I see no reason why AU at time of publication is functionally different at affecting enjoyment compared to becoming AU after the fact. In other words, you're attributing the lack of enjoyment to AU (specifically deviation from canon characterizations) but the logic you're explaining to me isn't backing up that attribution.
I am speaking of my subjective preference in this case. And, like, I'm getting the impression you think I automatically hate anything that's AU from a strict adherence to canon...which isn't the case.
As I mentioned before, AUs range a wide spectrum going from "what-if" scenarios (which this example of branching away from book 5 would count under) to the more extreme ones where only the names are recognizable. What I feel like tolerating is usually somewhere along that spectrum, and can differ between fandoms. I don't usually sit down and analyze it; more often I make the judgement after reading the summary or the first few paragraphs. As a tendency, I do like stories that try to follow some level of canon rather than something almost unrecognizable. But I'd don't require slavish adherence to it, or I'd just be reading the original.
Regarding the specific example of AU at time of publication vs AU after completion... it's usually due to comparisons made after the story's completion, and the state of mind, I guess. Like, when reading a continuance fic when a series is still WIP, it's usually to get a fix while waiting for the updates. But when the story has completed, and then looking back on that now "what-if" story, the state of mind would be different. Sometimes it's still enjoyable. Sometimes it feels wanting.
And really, this isn't something restricted to AUs. If I go back to fics I've saved from a few years ago and review them, I might not still like all of them anymore. Sometimes because I've dropped out of whatever fandom. Sometimes because my tastes or opinions on things have changed.
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I'll concede the point that the conflict between the Xianzhou and various Abundance blessed powers had started before they converted to Hunt. So there's a long standing tradition of conflict there, and given the typical vibe of the Denizens of Abundance, they're more likely to be the aggressors.
BTW, I've usually associated just the Borisin with the northern nomadic peoples given what we've seen of their depiction. The Wingweavers, I dunno, they feel a little like the Korean peninsula powers or Japan even...(which would make the Anti-Matter Legion the USA then; that might be taking it too far.)
> The fact they are recognized as having the same personalities and appearance, thus are expies rather than new original character means fandom acknowledges the transference of this core identity.
Eh? I don't think that's what they're trying to do with this. The fandom recognizes that there would be a similarity, but it's also very evident that these are new individual characters on their own made for the HSR game.
Like, if someone writes a story about Himeko, whether this is a HSR fanfic or a Impact 3rd fanfic would then depend on the context elements. Is this Himeko an engineer and navigator of the Astral Express or is she a researcher? Are the people she's interacting with the HSR cast or the Impact3 cast?
Then, if you write a story about Himeko being, say, a normal earth sports club manager with little to no other references in story to elements of either fandom, then it doesn't make a lot of difference if you point at that story and say it's an AU of HSR vs an AU of Impact3. The distinction at that point is meaningless since it's so removed from the elements of either setting.
> But I see no reason why AU at time of publication is functionally different at affecting enjoyment compared to becoming AU after the fact. In other words, you're attributing the lack of enjoyment to AU (specifically deviation from canon characterizations) but the logic you're explaining to me isn't backing up that attribution.
I am speaking of my subjective preference in this case. And, like, I'm getting the impression you think I automatically hate anything that's AU from a strict adherence to canon...which isn't the case.
As I mentioned before, AUs range a wide spectrum going from "what-if" scenarios (which this example of branching away from book 5 would count under) to the more extreme ones where only the names are recognizable. What I feel like tolerating is usually somewhere along that spectrum, and can differ between fandoms. I don't usually sit down and analyze it; more often I make the judgement after reading the summary or the first few paragraphs. As a tendency, I do like stories that try to follow some level of canon rather than something almost unrecognizable. But I'd don't require slavish adherence to it, or I'd just be reading the original.
Regarding the specific example of AU at time of publication vs AU after completion... it's usually due to comparisons made after the story's completion, and the state of mind, I guess. Like, when reading a continuance fic when a series is still WIP, it's usually to get a fix while waiting for the updates. But when the story has completed, and then looking back on that now "what-if" story, the state of mind would be different. Sometimes it's still enjoyable. Sometimes it feels wanting.
And really, this isn't something restricted to AUs. If I go back to fics I've saved from a few years ago and review them, I might not still like all of them anymore. Sometimes because I've dropped out of whatever fandom. Sometimes because my tastes or opinions on things have changed.